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	<description>Fredrik Sarnblad</description>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3060</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as you say you don&#039;t want this sort of lifestyle ad, I don&#039;t want any more un-updated [is that even a word???] blog posts so get on with some writing please :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as you say you don&#8217;t want this sort of lifestyle ad, I don&#8217;t want any more un-updated [is that even a word???] blog posts so get on with some writing please <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3057</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Fred - too many people [and ad agencies] take credit for a brands success without realising or acknowledging the role the product, distribution, promotion, economic &amp; competitive environment and culture [of both company and country] played in it&#039;s achievements.

I&#039;m not underestimating the power of advertising - especially interms of giving people a sense of &#039;belonging&#039; in particular segment groups - but too many think 30&quot; of wallpaper and a few posters can make anything bad into something good - and whilst that may of been the case in the 50&#039;s-80&#039;s, with technology, people are more informed than ever before and can spot bullshit quicker/better regardless what the ads say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Fred &#8211; too many people [and ad agencies] take credit for a brands success without realising or acknowledging the role the product, distribution, promotion, economic &amp; competitive environment and culture [of both company and country] played in it&#8217;s achievements.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not underestimating the power of advertising &#8211; especially interms of giving people a sense of &#8216;belonging&#8217; in particular segment groups &#8211; but too many think 30&#8243; of wallpaper and a few posters can make anything bad into something good &#8211; and whilst that may of been the case in the 50&#8217;s-80&#8217;s, with technology, people are more informed than ever before and can spot bullshit quicker/better regardless what the ads say.</p>
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		<title>By: fredrik sarnblad</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3052</link>
		<dc:creator>fredrik sarnblad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marcus and thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. I know what you’re saying. I guess I both agree and disagree. The problem I have is that I don’t think that a clear sense of values, identity and ideology is conveyed in what marketing people normally refer to as lifestyle brands. Not always but typically, they don’t assign the meaning you do to the term ‘Lifestyle brands”. There’s no depth to the thinking. All it means is glossy shots of beautiful people surrounded by what’s assumed to be aspirational stuff.

Take RL as an example. Sure, it&#039;s a hugely successful brand, but I doubt it&#039;s their advertising has been the dominant factor in their success other than pure awareness. But I could be wrong. It happens.  While the brand clearly reflects blue eyed America’s country club life, it informs me only superficially about specific brand values and ideology as the social class RL hitches itself to is such a broad composition of people (an entire social class). What does the brand really stand for? I appreciate that it’s meant to resonate with an audience that wants to belong to the RL way of life. But how differentiating is the brand/communication when competitors are using similar blue eyed models shot in almost identical contexts (the same social class)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marcus and thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. I know what you’re saying. I guess I both agree and disagree. The problem I have is that I don’t think that a clear sense of values, identity and ideology is conveyed in what marketing people normally refer to as lifestyle brands. Not always but typically, they don’t assign the meaning you do to the term ‘Lifestyle brands”. There’s no depth to the thinking. All it means is glossy shots of beautiful people surrounded by what’s assumed to be aspirational stuff.</p>
<p>Take RL as an example. Sure, it&#8217;s a hugely successful brand, but I doubt it&#8217;s their advertising has been the dominant factor in their success other than pure awareness. But I could be wrong. It happens.  While the brand clearly reflects blue eyed America’s country club life, it informs me only superficially about specific brand values and ideology as the social class RL hitches itself to is such a broad composition of people (an entire social class). What does the brand really stand for? I appreciate that it’s meant to resonate with an audience that wants to belong to the RL way of life. But how differentiating is the brand/communication when competitors are using similar blue eyed models shot in almost identical contexts (the same social class)?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus &#124; Culturemaking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcus &#124; Culturemaking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post Fred.  Perhaps some other important ingredients here are values, identity and ideology.  I think of &#039;lifestyle brands&#039; as those that come to speak for people’s identity and values; they come with ideology built in - as standard.  Brand’s embedded within social class (e.g. preppyville), music (e.g. rock, hip hop), creativity (e.g. art &amp; design) are indicative in this respect and probably explains why fashion and technology brands are often the key reference points.  

Hey, I’m all for carving out your own lifestyle personally – or appropriating something original at least - but it’s difficult from a purely bank account perspective to criticise the success of brands like Ralph Lauren who sells a lifestyle with all the country club trimmings.  I mean, the guy’s even managed to self a preppified version of the British aristocratic lifestyle BACK to the royal family themselves - WTF! ;)  

I think a key problem is when other brands want to join the party who, often by way of their category, are not well positioned to sell a lifestyle and speak for people’s identity and values in the same way.  Quite often then, they just end up looking try hard and silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post Fred.  Perhaps some other important ingredients here are values, identity and ideology.  I think of &#8216;lifestyle brands&#8217; as those that come to speak for people’s identity and values; they come with ideology built in &#8211; as standard.  Brand’s embedded within social class (e.g. preppyville), music (e.g. rock, hip hop), creativity (e.g. art &amp; design) are indicative in this respect and probably explains why fashion and technology brands are often the key reference points.  </p>
<p>Hey, I’m all for carving out your own lifestyle personally – or appropriating something original at least &#8211; but it’s difficult from a purely bank account perspective to criticise the success of brands like Ralph Lauren who sells a lifestyle with all the country club trimmings.  I mean, the guy’s even managed to self a preppified version of the British aristocratic lifestyle BACK to the royal family themselves &#8211; WTF! <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>I think a key problem is when other brands want to join the party who, often by way of their category, are not well positioned to sell a lifestyle and speak for people’s identity and values in the same way.  Quite often then, they just end up looking try hard and silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3049</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Operation: Kill research that advocates this approach. DONE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Operation: Kill research that advocates this approach. DONE!</p>
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		<title>By: fredrik sarnblad</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredrik sarnblad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers Angus. It&#039;s an issue that needs to be addressed. It&#039;s apparently not just another hang-up of mine. Ha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers Angus. It&#8217;s an issue that needs to be addressed. It&#8217;s apparently not just another hang-up of mine. Ha!</p>
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		<title>By: Angus</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3047</link>
		<dc:creator>Angus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous post Fred, couldn&#039;t agree more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous post Fred, couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
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		<title>By: fredrik sarnblad</title>
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		<dc:creator>fredrik sarnblad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3045</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ll be happy [or maybe not ;) ] to know I&#039;ve just written a piece about this issue in Media Mag and so I fully expect to be hunted down and killed by every beer, food and bank client in Asia for pissing on their &#039;lifestyle obsessed&#039; parade!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ll be happy [or maybe not <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ] to know I&#8217;ve just written a piece about this issue in Media Mag and so I fully expect to be hunted down and killed by every beer, food and bank client in Asia for pissing on their &#8216;lifestyle obsessed&#8217; parade!</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://fredriksarnblad.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/lifestyle-i-dont-want-it/#comment-3044</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good question to ask Marketing Directors who say they want to make their brand a &#039;lifestyle&#039; one is &quot;what is wrong with your life that your brand could make better?&quot;

Too many people spout &#039;buzz words&#039; without understanding what they really mean or the true implications of what they&#039;re saying - because lets face it, a fucking whisky ain&#039;t gonna make a suicidal bloke suddenly find happiness and positivity in all that is going on around them - well, not unless they&#039;ve drunk 3 bottles of the shit ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good question to ask Marketing Directors who say they want to make their brand a &#8216;lifestyle&#8217; one is &#8220;what is wrong with your life that your brand could make better?&#8221;</p>
<p>Too many people spout &#8216;buzz words&#8217; without understanding what they really mean or the true implications of what they&#8217;re saying &#8211; because lets face it, a fucking whisky ain&#8217;t gonna make a suicidal bloke suddenly find happiness and positivity in all that is going on around them &#8211; well, not unless they&#8217;ve drunk 3 bottles of the shit <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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